Saturday, October 04, 2008

Rape victims and Ramayana.




Atul
: Hey bloggy, whats up?

Blog: Not bad. Why don't you install Google Chrome and run me on that?

Atul: Actually I did install Chrome but didn't like it. Well, or lets say that I still like Firefox better than Chrome.

Blog: Ok, never mind, so what's up with this Ramayana thing?

Atul: I watched this movie yesterday - Khaamosh Pani (Silent Waters). It's a Pakistani movie and actually, a pretty nice attempt. Btw, warn me if I start writing a review of the movie instead of what I intended to write. So this movie is based on the period when Pakistan was undergoing a political crisis.

Blog: Wait a minute, be specific. Because Pakistan has always been in a political crisis!

Atul: Allright, so it's on the backdrop of the events in late 1970s when Zia Ul Haq took over and Marshall law was enforced on Pakistan with ouster of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.

Blog: I know who you are talking about, that Haq guy had the weirdest moustache and hair style.

Atul: Yep. So the story is based on a mother and her son during that period, living in a village immune to the political turmoil in big cities. But as the story progresses, her son starts getting Islamicized and intolerant to other religions. And from the flashback we get to know her story that how she was a Sikh woman, forced to commit suicide during partition by her own family members, but she doesn't jump into that well and instead runs away. Eventually she is caught by some Muslim folks, repeatedly raped before some one shows pity on her and marries her. I am not giving away the story here, was just building up the context of what I have to say next.

Blog: Oh man, that is tragic. We can go on and on discussing the human tragedy of the partition, but keep it for another blog post. Now I know how does the rape comes in the title of this post but how about Ramayana? Isn't that a great epic of you Hindus?

Atul: You are right, it's probably the most revered of the Hindu epics with Rama, the lead hero being the Super God of sorts for Hindus. Now assuming that you already know the story and know that how Rama brings back Sita abducted by Demon Ravana I will fast forward to when Rama asks Sita to leave him because people start doubting Sita and her purity.

Blog: Hold on, what do you mean by purity? So people actually thought that Sita had sex with Ravana?

Atul: That was a bit raw, but yes, you are right. It was the main accusation against her.

Blog: I don't get it. May be I am just a dumb blog and not as intelligent as you humans, but one thing is for sure, and it is that Ravana could have raped Sita but no way they had consensual sex.

Atul: You are right again. You see ...

Blog: There is nothing to see in it. Even if she was raped, that should lead to sympathy of people towards her not their antipathy. That's preposterous.

Atul: Well I am not saying that the people were right in saying or thinking so.

Blog: And nor was your Lord Rama. By that logic, every rape victim should be ostracized from society and sent to those rehabilitation centers where they earn their livelihood by knitting carpets or making cane chairs. The other day I read about Sati system, the craziest thing I ever read. And then these honour killings, always with innocent women being the victim. Don't you have any respect for women?

Atul: Why are you blaming me? I didn't rape any one. Instead, what I am trying to say is that what Lord Rama did was ...

Blog: Bullshit ! That's what it was. And you say that he is your ideal God?

Atul: No, he is not. And you mind your language least you want me to get killed.
I don't think Rama was perfect and for that matter Ramayana is a perfect story. And that's what bamboozles me, what could be the reason that the authors of Ramayana added this Sita Vanvaas episode in what is other wise a perfect story.

Blog: I know, because those guys were assholes?

Atul: Shut up. There can be three reasons.
1. It's a known fact that Valmiki, the author of the Ramayana didn't write the Uttara Kanda in which these events take place. So either the story was not very well integrated or there's a conspiracy theory that some one else added this story to the original epic to kind off denegrate the character of Rama. I am not a buyer of that theory.

2. The authors wanted to show that how a man who could fight the deadliest of all the daemons could not fight the mores of the society. So by adding this episode, the authors made the story more relevant and humane. It didn't make Lord Rama an ideal but used him as a tool to tell us that what is indeed ideal.

3. Well, I hope it's not true but ...

Blog: Hahahaha, I know you can't say it, so let me do the honors. The only other justification of Rama not accepting a supposed rape victim who had passed the 'Agni Pariksha' and was her divine beloved and was won back after a deadly war killing thousands of monkeys and a million Rakshas is that ... the author of Ramayana was an ASSHOLE.

Atul: You said it!

4 comments:

SAMIR SARDANA said...

Hindoos are squeamish about the rape of Seeta Maiya.The fact is that Seeya Maiya was raped by Ravana and she performed fellatio on Ravana !

Hindoo poetry has a poetic way of describing rape - as we will see later.dindooohindoo

Seeta herself states in the Yuddha Kanda that she was banged by Ravana

PHASE 1 - RAMA OPENLY TELLS SEETA MAIYA THAT SHE MUST HAVE BEEN FUCKED BY RAVANA

Book VI : Yuddha Kanda - Book Of War
Chapter [Sarga] 115

कः पुमांस्तु कुले जातह् स्त्रियं परगृहोषिताम् |
तेजस्वी पुनरादद्यात् सुहृल्लेख्येन चेतसा || ६-११५-१९

"Which noble man, born in an illustrious race, will take back a woman who lived in another's abode, with an eager mind?"

न हि त्वां रावणो दृष्ट्वो दिव्यरूपां मनोरमाम् |
मर्षयेत चिरं सीते स्वगृहे पर्यवस्थिताम् || ६-११५-२४

"Seeing you, who are endowed with a beautiful form and attractive to the sense, detained for long in his abode, Ravana could not have endured your separation."

PHASE 2 - SEETA HERSELF ADMITS THAT SHE WAS DRY FUCKED BY RAVANA - BUT WHILE SHE WAS LAID - HER HEART HAD ONLY RAMA THE LIMPDICK ! THESE ARE THE WORDS OF SEETA MAIYA !

Book VI : Yuddha Kanda - Book Of War
Chapter [Sarga] 116

यद्यहं गात्रसंस्पर्शं गतास्मि विवशा प्रभो |
कामकारो न मे तत्र दैवं तत्रापराध्यति || ६-११६-८

"O lord! It was not my willfulness, when I came into contact with the person of Ravana. I was helpless. My adverse fate was to blame on that score."

मदधीनं तु यत्तन्मे हृदयं त्वयि वर्तते |
पराधीनेषु गात्रेषु किं करिष्याम्यनीश्वरा || ६-११६-९

"My heart, which was subservient to me, was abiding in you. What could I do, helpless as I was, with regard to my limbs which had fallen under the sway of another?"

SAMIR SARDANA said...

PHASE 3 - THE CONCLUSIVE PROOF OF SEETA'S RAPE 30000 FEET IN THE SKY !

THE HINDU SANSKRIT POETRY OF RAPE ! dindooohindoo

Book III : Aranya Kanda - The Forest Trek
Chapter [Sarga] 52

उद्धूतेन च वस्त्रेण तस्याः पीतेन रावणः |
अधिकम् परिबभ्राज गिरिः दीप इव अग्निना || ३-५२-१५

When her ochreish silk sari's upper fringe is upheaved by air onto to Ravana, Ravana looked blazing like a mountain set ablaze, muchly and overly. [3-52-15]

NOTE - SEETA'S "UPPER FRINGE SARI" (wHICH COVERS HER BREASTS) IS "UPHEAVED ON TO RAVANA".RAVANA LOVED SEETA'S BREASTS - AS WE READ IN THE ARANYA KANDAM BEFORE.

तस्याः परम कल्याण्याः ताम्राणि सुरभीणि च |
पद्म पत्राणि वैदेह्या अभ्यकीर्यन्त रावणम् - यद्वा -
- च्युतानि पद्म पत्राणि रावणम् समावाकिरन् - || ३-५२-१६

Reddish and scented lotus-petals adorning that highly auspicious Seetha have slithered, but again upheaved by air they are bestrewn on Ravana. [3-52-16]

NOTE - WHILE RAVANA IS BANGING SEETA - THE PETALS THAT SEETA WORE ARE NOW ON RAVANA ! HOW DID THAT HAPPEN ? HOW CAN THE AIR PLACE THE PETALS AND THE UPPER SAREE OF SEETA ON RAVANA ? IT AIN'T MAGIC ! IT IS SIMPLE SEX ON THE LAP !

तस्याः कौशेयम् उद्धूतम् आकाशे कनक प्रभम् |
बभौ च आदित्य रागेण ताम्रम् अभ्रम् इव आतपे || ३-५२-१७

Upper fringe of Seetha's silk sari with golden glitter is upheaved in the sky, and with the reddish hue of sun in red heat of midday it beamed forth like a reddish cloud. [3-52-17]

NOTE - THIS VERSE MEANS THAT RAVANA "REMOVED" SEETA MAIYA'S SAREE AND SHE WAS "STARK NAKED".A reddish cloud is acceptable either in morning or in evening but not in midday since it is a bad omen. A BAD OMEN FOR SEETA MAIYA

सा पद्म पीता हेम आभा रावणम् जनक आत्मजा |
विद्युत् घनम् इव आविश्य शुशुभे तप्त भूषणा || ३-५२-२४

Seetha, the daughter of Janaka, with a complexion that is goldenly yellowish in the tinge of a lotus, moreover with her ornaments of purified gold, flashed like a lightning possessed in a dark-cloud, when that stonehearted Ravana possessed her. [3-52-24]

NOTE - RAVANA "POSSESSED SEETA MAIYA"

तरु प्रवाल रक्ता सा नील अंगम् राक्षस ईश्वरम् |
प्राशोभयत वैदेही गजम् कक्ष्या इव कांचनी || ३-५२-३०

She that Vaidehi who is so delicate like reddish leaflets of trees made that blackish bodied lord of demons, Ravana, well and truly lambent, herself becoming a golden girdle girded around the elephant like Ravana.

NOTE - LAMBENT MEANS HAPPY AND SMILING AND SEETA IS LIKE A GIRDLE CLASPING THE ELEPHANT ORGAN OF RAVANA

IT IS DUE TO THE ABOVESAID RAPE OF SEETA MAIYA THAT THE GODS "SHUDDERED"

Book III : Aranya Kanda - The Forest Trek
Chapter [Sarga] 52

सुप्रवेपित गात्राः च बभूवुः वन देवताः || ३-५२-४१
विक्रोशन्तीम् दृढम् सीताम् दृष्ट्वा दुःखम् तथा गताम् |

On seeing Seetha who is undergoing anguish in that way the sylvan deities physically shuddered in a worst way. [3-52-41b, 42a]

BUT IS IT RAPE ?

SEETA WAS A LONELY SEXUALLY FRUSTRATED WOMAN !

SHE GOT LOVE,SEX AND RESPECT ONLY FROM RAVANA !

RAMA WAS AN IMPOTENT,COWARD AND A GAY PANSY !

samir sardana said...

The Proof that Seeta Maiya went willingly with Ravana as she was a lonely and sexually frustrated Nepali whore.dindooohindoo

The fact that Rama was an impotent limpdick and a gay pansy,is undisputable - so we leave that at this stage

PART 1

1st let us settle the matter that Seeta was a lonely,frustrated Nepali whore

Book III : Aranya Kanda - The Forest Trek

Chapter [Sarga] 53

ईदृशम् गर्हितम् कर्म कथम् कृत्वा न लज्जसे |
स्त्रियाः च हरणम् नीच रहिते च परस्य च || ३-५३-७

"A woman, that too a lonely one, that too the other man's wife, that too an abduction, but not winning or wooing her... you knave, on your undertaking such a kind of deplorable deed, how unashamed are you? [3-53-7]

Note - SEETA MAIYA DID NOT SAY THAT SHE WAS ALONE.SHE SAID SHE WAS LONELY

PART 2

It is said that if Ravana touched any woman with intent of lust, he would die

Let us 1st prove that the Ravana touched Seeta with intent of lust.He described Seeta's breats and nipples etc. - but that is passe,as that is just vocabulary

There is specific reference in the Ramayana that RAVANA TOUCHED SITA MAIYA WITH INTENT OF LUST

Book III : Aranya Kanda - The Forest Trek

Chapter [Sarga] 49

Ravana who is "infatuated with lust" picked her up, which lady is disinclined for any kind of sensuality and who is verily writhing like the wife of King Cobra, and then he surged skyward and flew off with her in his air-chariot. [3-49-22]

ताम् अकामाम् स काम आर्तः पन्नग इन्द्र वधूम् इव |
विवेष्टमानाम् आदाय उत्पपात अथ रावणः || ३-४९-२२

Then people say that Ravana DID NOT TOUCH THE BODY OF SEETA MAIYA ! Lies

This is proof that Ravana touched her body,waist and naked thighs

Book III : Aranya Kanda - The Forest Trek

Chapter [Sarga] 49

वामेन सीताम् पद्माक्षीम् मूर्धजेषु करेण सः |
ऊर्वोः तु दक्षिणेन एव परिजग्राह पाणिना || ३-४९-१७

He that Ravana grabbed the lotus-eyed Seetha on lifting her up with his left hand at her plait of hair at nape, and with his right hand at her thighs. [3-49-17]

ततः ताम् परुषैः वाक्यैः अभितर्ज्य महास्वनः |
अंकेन आदाय वैदेहीम् रथम् आरोपयत् तदा || ३-४९-२०

Then he whose voice is strident that Ravana lifted her up by her waist and got Vaidehi up on the air-chariot intimidating her with bitter words. [3-49-20]

AND RAVANA DID NOT DIE !

WHICH MEANS THAT SEETA MAIYA WENT WITH RAVANA WILLINGLY AS SHE WAS SEDUCED BY HIM !

SEETA MAIYA MIGHT HAVE HAD AFTER THOUGHTS ! BUT SHE WENT WITH RAVANA WILLINGLY - PERHAPS UNDER SEDUCTION OR HYPNOTISM - BUT THE NEPALI RANDI SEETA WENT WILLINGLY WITH RAVANA

samir sardana said...

This is Oral Sex in the Ramayana !

Sita performs Fellatio on Ravana ! Ravana was an African and deeply dis-satisfied with her husband !

The Satanic Verse is that Ravana made Seeta perform fellatio ! dindooohindoo !

Book III : Aranya Kanda - The Forest Trek

Chapter [Sarga] 52

तस्यास्तत्सुनसं वक्त्रमाकाशे रावणाङ्कगम्।

न रराज विना रामं विनालमिव पङ्कजम्।।3.52.18।।

Sita's face with her beautiful nose on Ravana's lap and not on Rama's, shone no more like a lotus without its stalk.

NOTE - SITA'S NOSE WAS IN RAVANA'S LAP ! WHAT WAS HER NOSE DOING IN RAVANA;'S LAP ? THE NOSE IS NEAR THE MOUTH ! IT IS FELLATIO !

बभूव जलदं नीलं भित्त्वा चन्द्र इवोदितः।

सुललाटं सुकेशान्तं पद्मगर्भाभमव्रणम्।।3.52.19।।

शुक्लैस्सुविमलैर्दन्तै प्रभावद्भिरलङ्कृतम्।

तस्यास्तद्विमलं वक्त्रमाकाशे रावणाङ्कगम्।।3.52.20।।

रुदितं व्यपमृष्टास्रं चन्द्रवत्प्रियदर्शनम्।

सुनासं चारुताम्रोष्ठमाकाशे हाटकप्रभम्।।3.52.21।।

Sita’s face looked beautiful with her smooth forehead, shining hair and spotless complexion like the inside of a lotus, with clean, white, shining teeth, a nice nose and lovely red lips. She was continuously weeping and wiping her tears. Her face which was pleasing like the Moon on the lap of Ravana appeared as though the Moon was rising through dark clouds.

NOTE THE FELLATIO POSE - WHITE TEETH AND RED LIPS ! NOTE THE RAVANA TONE - MOON RISING THROUGH DARK CLOUDS ! THE CLIMACTIC EJACULATION !